What Lessons Do Egg-Hatching Projects Teach?


WOODSTOCK, N.Y. -- Egg-hatching lessons, which are used as part of classes on life cycles, are one of the most popular science projects in elementary schools across the country. But Animal Welfare Groups call them irresponsible and inhumane.

“They (the children) get to see the whole real thing and I think it’s the best way to teach it. I’m always amazed by it myself,” said Pat Torpie, a fourth grade teacher at Columbus Elementary School in Thornwood, N.Y.

Matt Curran also utilizes the egg-hatching project to teach his fifth graders at Kensico School in Valhalla, N.Y. “It’s a pretty neat project. It starts (in the) morning, picking up eggs. We bring them back to the classroom, (where) we have incubators that are set up already, and basically for three weeks, the kids observe the eggs as they develop over 21 days.”

Both teachers collected eggs for their students through the Westchester County 4-H Incubation and Embryology Project, which is part of the Cornell Cooperative Extension. During the spring of 2007, the projected hatched about 1,300 chicks in classrooms throughout Westchester County, as well as the Bronx, Brooklyn and Manhattan.

This year, almost 200 dozen fertilized eggs are again heading to classrooms around the county. If all goes well, in about three to four weeks, the same number of healthy chicks will be born. But the incubator is no match for a mother hen.

According to Jenny Brown, founder of Woodstock Farm Animal Sanctuary, “the egg hatching projects do not mimic what happens in nature with a mother and her babies. She turns them more frequently (and) can regulate their temperature.

“Oftentimes (the eggs) are neglected and starved. They are not given water or the attention they need, and so they suffer.”

The teachers, however, say their success rate – the number of chicks born healthy – is about 75 percent.

“Unfortunately we have had chicks that hatched, but were not formed properly,” says Curran. “It could be that the egg didn’t turn properly (or) maybe the temperature wasn’t as warm as necessary.”

Since there is no veterinary budget, these birds are discarded at the school, but what about healthy ones? A few months ago, rescue workers found a box of abandoned baby chicks next to a garbage can in Manhattan.

“The problem is that it teaches kids to treat these animals like disposable objects,” said Brown.

Nancy Caswell, 4-H community educator, says that she keeps track of where the baby chicks go, and if she discovers they have ended up in a garbage can, 4-H won’t give out anymore eggs to the responsible parties.

Teachers, who participate in the Westchester County 4-H Incubation and Embryology Project, drop the birds at the Stone Barns Center for Food and Agriculture. Lucky for them, it’s a free-range farm, but not necessarily a long-lived life.

“We get calls on a regular basis during the school year from upset parents, (whose) children are devastated when they find out that their chicks are going to a farm, and often the teacher will tell them the truth – that they’re going to be killed for meat,” said Brown.

This tough lesson might come from an out-dated teaching method.

“There are many wonderful alternatives (to the egg-hatching projects) in this day and age.”

If your child’s school is planning egg-hatching lessons, you can encourage them to use alternative projects.

For more information, visit United Poultry Concerns' Web site, UPC-online.org or call 757-678-7875.

If the project has already started, support the teachers in treating the birds well and finding them humane placement.

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Both sides have interesting points of views. Though I do think that the egg hatching is a good way to learn about the development of a baby, it is cruel to the chicks if that is how they end up...
 
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All students learn differently and sometimes hands on is the best way. The project needs to be done by a responsible teacher and the babies need to have a destination before the project is started. What a great field trip to go to the farm where the babies are and continue learning about them and other aspects of farming.
 
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I agree. If done properly, this could be a great learning experience. And many children do learn best with hands on experiences. I also like the idea of a follow up field trip to see how thier chicks have grown!
 
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a better thing to do is raise butterflies. that way they can be set free and help the butterfly poplutaion grow. But the egg hatching was my favorite thing to do in school. my chick always hatched healthy.
 
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Needs to be more investigations into exactly what is happening to the chicks. Also, need to investigate these methods to make sure the unborn chicks aren't starved to death. I would think there would be a better way to teach children without the suffering of animals.
 
Amy R.
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it's terible that the chicks are discarded in that manner. I think it is great for children to see however if there is a problem with homes for the chicks maybe they should just record it and play the tape every year...
 
Audrey T.
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We donated an egg to a classroom hatching project. It was a turkey egg that they hatched with several chicken eggs. The students enjoyed seeing the difference between the chicks and eggs and in the end, the turkey came home to roost. The teachers already had a home set up for the chicks. I hope that people can learn from this publicity and make these type of projects work in a positive way. I am surprised that the 4H providing the eggs doesnt offer local places to take the chicks or some answer to the issue.
 
Sarah B.
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It would have been nice if the article stated what the "many wonderful alternatives (to the egg-hatching projects)" actually were. So people could than encourage their schools to take those options into consideration before starting the class project. I think the underlying learning is there for the students but eggs are a very hard thing to raise properly & have a high success rate. I would think that teachers could use a different type of animal that is on loan from a shelter for socialization & proper care teaching. The shelter would ultimately be responsible for the care & treatment of the animal till it's adopted. The animal would benefit by being socialized w/ children & different situations. It would also prevent kennel crazy. Young rabbits etc. It all comes down to if they will be treated well & end up in a loving forever home.
 
Lauren D.
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It shouldn't be hard to find adoptive homes for the chickens, even in the city, the green movement is prompting lots of urban dwellers to start community gardens, and communtiy chickens would fit right in. The eggs would benefit everybody and the kids would get to see the chickens give back after they've raised them.
 
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This is terrible. Why give chicks-or anything-life, if you can't take care of it? If it starves or suffers, whats the point of bringing it into the world?
 
You don't eat meat... right??
 
Crystal
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I remember watching videos in school, and I can honestly say I don't remember them and did not learn a thing from them, but I do remember the field trips and projects. Seeing something happen in person is way better than any video can show. Unfortunately these teachers have been doing this in an unethical manner. More care should be given to these developing eggs and a better life should be set up for these chickens than becoming food. I liked the previous post about sending classroom hatched ducks to a farm and then taking a field trip to see the ducks in their new home and learn about the workings of a farm.
 
rena n.
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I think it's good for the kids to work with the project doing it hands on but after they are hatched they should be sent o local farms where they will continue to be cared for. Doing things personally is alot better than watching a video or learning it form the pc.
 
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I am a teacher and we did a duck hatching project in our kindergarten classroom, the kids loved it and learned a ton, nothing a movie could have done for them. All the ducks turned out very healthy, had they not, I would have paid for vet bills out of pocket. Before the project, I had a farm set up for the ducks to go to upon maturation. The kids and I took a field trip to the farm to see where our ducks would live and to learn even more about the animals. If the teacher is responsible and respectful of the animals, this type of project is one where everybody wins; it can go bad with a reckless teacher though.
 
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Exactly my thoughts- I'm glad a teacher said them!!
 
Janet V.
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I have to agree with movies instead of this.
 
sheri
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I not sure what to say on this one.I do agree with Elisa about wacthing a movie.
 
Elisa S.
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What's wrong with watching a movie?
 
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Kim R.
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You can (I did) learn the same thing by watching a movie about the birth of avian species. We went through the egg in school thing, along with cutting up the fetal pigs. I learned much more from a properly shot, lit and narrated film. Many if the teachers know little about hatching chicks and the projects often go wrong. I find it hard to believe that the kids don't understand at some level these creatures are being killed for our "needs". And that we approve of wasting animals' lives.
 
I am hoping you are vegetarian, otherwise you are a hypocrite. The same animals are being killed for humans' "need" to eat meat (not a true need at all). A chicken that spent part of its life in a classroom is better off than the chicken that is on your dinner plate tonight and definitely served more of a purpose in its life.
 
I recall this "experiment" in 7th grade - not sure that I learned much from cracking open an egg every day to see what the inside of it looked like. Never mind the fact that we never wondered where the chicks went (if they were allowed to hatch.) Seems unnecessary to me. You could watch this on a film or something if you thought it was that important to see......same with dissecting animals frankly.
 
amanda e.
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We do a lot worse for the benefit of education.
 
Carly67
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Maybe they should start being more concerned with the welfare of chickens on chicken farm and factories.
 
Stephanie B.
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Really! The majority of the animals are living wonderful lives compared to those that most of the negative people posting will be eating for dinner tonight!
 
Kat A.
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I think this is horible. Those poor chickens!
 
How sad!! Project should be banned!
 
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Why should this be banned? This is an experiment meant to teach our youth about the development of life forms. I think it's perfectly legit!! At the end of the experiment, the chicks produced should be placed in an appropriate farm or other location where they can live out their life, whether it be for food (yes, this does happen!) or for eggs. Any other disposal (such as the trash) is completely immoral and no respectable teacher would go that route!!!!
 
The project should not be banned, it is an amazing experience for the children if controlled by a responsible teacher; I have carried numerous projects like this one through beautifully and the animals are doing well to this day. Bad teachers should be banned from doing the project is what you should be saying.
 
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We had an incubator in my high school Biology class. The eggs were a week or so from bring ready to hatch when the school had a spring break. The school underwent some construction, and the power was shut off for a majority of the week. All but 1 of the eggs didn't make it. Needless to say, it was so sad. The duck eggs were donated by a farmer, who then was going to take the ducklings back at the end of the year. Our class period named him Lucky (each period had it's own name).

Even with this incident, given proper care & supervision I think this is a useful tool. I certainly looked forward to class, if only to let the duckling swim in the lab sinks. (Which was a blast & absolutely adorable to watch!) Enjoying a class makes an immense difference in performance.
 
I have to agree. There are better alternatives. Like some of you have already suggested, going to a farm. That is a better representation of how baby chicks are born. That way the mother can keep her eggs and they will have a better chance of survival. I have never heard of anything like this before, and if I did have a child in a class where this was happening, I would definitely sit down with that teacher. It just isn't fair to the animals.
 
I hatched eggs in elementary school and it definitely taught me a lot and the other kids in my class who weren't as animal oriented as I am also learned quite a bit. I think it is a great exercise and along with other programs such as art and music, agricultural education should not be taken for granted.
 
I think farm field trips would offer more of a learning experience then hatching eggs.
 
T R.
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What happened to the chicks after they hatched?
 
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Thanks, deedee. I'd rather have the kids see the real deal on the farm, rather than in an incubator. That way they are learning via nature's way, seeing the hen take care of her little chicks. What's an incubator experiment going to teach a kid, animals can be disopsable according to our 'personal convenience'? Plus taking a chick out of their natural habitat isn't good for it. It needs to be with it's mom. Or like I do with the youngsters in the family, we look it up on the computer or in the library, if they see an animal, like an eagle, we look it up and find all the interesting facts about it. How else are they going to learn? Half the fun of learning is the research. It also helps them to develop good studying practices. But that's just me.
 
I think it would be cool to watch an egg hatch.
 
Well, as the cows say on tv, Eat more chickn. The chicken has to come from somewhere! This is another part of education that unfortunately our children also have to learn along with the egg hatching. If they do not want to take their chick home and keep it for a pet themselves then they have to go somewhere and certainly, not in the garbage.
 
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that is ridiculous that the chics are starved and not fed right. a teacher participating in this and seeing the end result over and over should stand up and refuse to continue the "program". insanity is repeating the same action over and over and expecting different results. common sense people!
 
Avis I.
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Why do children need to learn how chickens are hatched? I would think that only people going into the poultry business would need to know this. Why don't we teach children respect for life and the enviornment and the old fashioned reading, writing and math.
 
roberta m.
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i agree, they should find another way of teaching this lesson
 
5ineveryroom
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If this program was well organized and the eggs and chicks were well cared for , I would not have a problem with this project. Computer programs and books are great, but they can not replace the experience of watching a real living creature grow and develop. If done correctly, this program should inspire a respect for life and wonder in the miricle of life. I mean, what could be more fascinating than experiencing this miricle in person. A program like this should help children see that all life is valuable, not disposable. They should be a part of the planning and arranging for homes for these creatures before they are even hatched. As long as the animals are treated with respect and cared for properly, this could be a great learning experience.
 
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I agree with you completely!!!
 
ruthie
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There must be a more humane way to teach kids this lesson. I just asked my 19 year old daughter whos teacher did this lesson in 3rd grade what happened to the chicks. She said she didn't know, never did know what happened to them. hmmmm....makes you wonder what really does happen to all the chicks that successfully manage to make it. Kids need to understand the process alright but they also need to understand that these are living, breathing creatures that need to be treated humanely, are these teachers going to add that to their lesson plan???
 
Alex C.
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If they are going to do this, they should do it with less eggs per classroom. Like one or two, and talk about why it did or why it didn't turn out right, and then have a proper place to take the chick when it does hatch, not just discard it, that's irresponsible. If you're going to teach children about anything dealing with animals, you need to teach it all not just the hatching/growing part but how to treat them when they grow up too. It's a neat thing that the kids get to experience but it needs to be better planned.
 
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I think it is a great way to teach kids how they develop but a horrible way to teach them like the article said, "how to just discard and mistreat animals". They should have to find good farms to take them to and learn the importance of how to grow them properly and find good homes for them.
 
LadyNoah
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Animals are not for display, or experiments. I home school and never teach like this. There are alternatives.
 
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Every year I hatched out baby ducks for my sisters and brother and me. It's a great way to show them the miracle of life and at the same time they gain a great deal of respect for animals.
 
Kari H.
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I think its a great way to teach a lesson. If one were to do it, they should make sure they have a respectable place for the chicks to go afterwards and they should make sure that while they are in their ownership that they are taken care of. Also, this story is making it seem that ALL the birds were disposed in garbage cans, but if you read closely it sounds like they only found one box.
 
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Yes, if you really read the whole story, they say that the chicks are sent to farms. It is sad that someone disposed of chicks this way, but it sounds like most of the schools are finding good homes for the chicks.
 
Renee B.
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What a bad way to learn a lesson, they should think this out better.
 
Corey A.
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While in an advanced biology class in high school, I remember we had a bunch of eggs that we had to break open the top of the shell, and see what was inside. The baby chick embryos were alive for this lesson. We had eggs that were aged differently, so we had to see and write reports on the developmental stages of the eggs. It was disturbing, and after my lab partner opened the egg, the chick inside tumbled over, and my partner screamed because some bloody fluid spilled out the shell on her fingers. The chick died of course.

Overall it was kind of difficult to do this lesson. However, at the end of the year, there were 4 eggs still in the incubator, and so my friends and I each took home a baby chick when it hatched. Our chicken was a hen and we named her LC for little chick. She grew fast and laid a lot of eggs. She lived about four years and then one morning she was dead for reasons we don't know. All I really remember was that she was really tame, and then one day she was mean and attacked us. After that we didn't want to be in the yard when she was out, because she'd just peck our ankles and feet all the time. Then when we were in the house, she'd attack our slippers.

All in all, I think the experiment with the eggs is a tough lesson, but in the end, the kids end up still eating chicken meat. I don't think this scars them for life.
 
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Oh and we bought chicken feed from a feed store, she also got to grub around the yard and we converted a dog kennel for her "cage" and a homemade doghouse was converted into a coop. The kennel was pretty big so she had lots of room, and was let out to explore our yard every day. She made the dogs miserable though, pecking their toes and fur.
 
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Couldn't this have been completed through a field trip to a hatchery rather than killing things.
 
Corey A.
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At the hatchery, the hatched chicks are sorted and the male chicks are tossed into the garbage and the grinder while still alive. So I think the hatchery is a worse experience for the kids to witness.
 
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You're absolutely right about the males being thrown into the garbage, I worked for a fella who's grandfather started a hatchery and was a very large operation at one time. They sorted them and the males sure enough were piled into trash cans to suffocate, how awful!
 
5ineveryroom
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I did not know that is what went on in hatcheries. How awful!!!
 
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noooo!
 
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A hundred years ago this may have been an acceptable idea,but with the world today,I don't think so.
I remember as a kid eye witnessing this and also later in years as the volunteer helping out at school,and I have to be honest and say that the hatch rate was never good,and that most chicks soon died after their birth because of some sort of inexperience and neglect.
Back in the day,these science projects were taken more seriously, quality of life was important,and there was always someone who had a coop of chickens or a grandma that owned a farm,so that the animals actually had a place to go.
Now a days there's too much animal abuse and cruelty,there's an over abundance of domestic pets,and our Economy sucks,and to me ,this is almost as bad as Easter Chicks.
Our society isn't what it once was long ago.
 
The Easter Chicks thing is a definite NO-NO!! This practice should be punishable by law!!! This, along with Easter Bunny business needs to go.
 
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With all the technology we have, there's no reason for this type of experiment or really any animal experiments.
 
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With all of the technology we have these days there is no reason for these kids to be hatching eggs. They probably aren't as interested as they would be if they had a virtual egg to hatch. In addition they aren't harming, although probably not intentionally, the animals.
 
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bad idea!
 
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I would think that this 'experiment' is far outdated....What exactly is the point of seeing an actual egg hatch? I beleive these things can be shown with educational films. Bad idea.....................teaches more negative lessons than positive ones!
 
I DO NOT AGREE WITH THIS EXPERIMENT.