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BLACK MOUNTAIN, N.C. -- The term “wolfdog” inspires trepidation in many people, who think they are wild and dangerous animals. But Nancy Brown, president of Full Moon Farm, a non-profit rescue and sanctuary for wolfdogs, in Black Mountain, N.C., says these fears are unfounded and fueled purely by an unsupported myth.

She claims that when treated properly wolfdogs are no more dangerous than any other pet dog.

“Wolfdogs are misunderstood,” Brown said.

“Depending on how they’re raised, wolfdogs are not dangerous animals. An abused German shepherd (is) just as dangerous as (a) wolfdog or any large canine.”

Because of the controversy surrounding wolfdogs, they often fall through the cracks in terms of recognition and funding. So Brown is working hard to reassure the public, as well as government agencies, that the wolfdog poses no threat.

“A wolfdog is not half-wolf, half-dog. A wolfdog is a canine that has pure wolf heritage within the last five generations,” Brown said. “They are not wild animals (nor are they) from wild animals. Nobody’s collecting wild animals from Canada or Alaska and then robbing puppies and bringing them to States and breeding them with dogs. That is a myth.”

Although Wolfdogs are illegal in some parts of the country, they are recognized as domestic animals by the USDA. They are bred nationwide – by both reputable breeders and backyard breeders.


Full Moon Farm, which exists through individual donations and the help of volunteers, is home to 71 wolfdogs that were rescued from abusive owners, shelters, picked up as strays, confiscated as illegal, or turned in by their owners. Since opening in 2002, Full Moon Farm has rescued, placed, or given sanctuary to more than 350 animals.

“Of the 71 wolfdogs that are here, probably 10 are suitable to be re-homed and additional 10 (will) go to a trainer-rehab work where they could be home-quality animals,” Brown said. “(There is) no time or resources for training them. More than likely they will stay here as a sanctuary animal for the rest of their lives.”

Nancy would like to see more responsible wolfdog breeding and more educated ownership. Many breeders sell dogs without informing people of their needs and some owners are unprepared to handle the high energy required for maintenance.

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ourstaff
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I think that shelters/groups that deal with one type of animal or breed are a good thing. This is especially important for breed that required special care. They need experts to educate the public and keep idiots from getting dogs they can't safely care for.
 
wolfmommy
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... and keep idiots from getting dogs they can't safely care for.

Amen. Your words apply to cany canine, IMHO, and the breeders, reputable hobby breeders do this. Back yard breeders, and pet shop puppies are responsible for the animals in rescue. I rarely have a good quality, known lineage animal come into rescue, because the breeders with the verified lines of wolves and wolfdogs, sell by prearrangement and/or contract.

The movie "fad" breeds are a prime example of people putting Fluffy and Buffy together to make a buck selling puppies. Wolfdogs are the same way. Joe Shmoe thinks s/he can make a few bucks, so he gets his low to no content, misrepresented puppies from Jane Shmoe, and goes into the puppy business. <sigh>

Nancy
 
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The "wolfdogs" seem to be enjoying the same reputation as the "pitbull terrier." It all goes back to the same thing we've discussed time & time again. . . . the owner needs to be experienced and knowledgable about the breed of dog (s)he is getting. Pet ownership is not a right but a responsibility. I fully agree with previous comments that the responsible owner factor is probably the one most important factor that will determine the success of owning this type of dog. These breeds are NOT FOR THE NOVICE, but they certainly have their place in the canine kingdom.
 
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It's not a breed it's not a breed it's not a breed it's not a breed it's not a breed it's not a breed it's not a breed it's not a breed it's

How many times must this be said?

What is the POINT of breeding these animals??
 
Cindy
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Frankly, I couldn't care less whether it is or is "not a breed............" The fact is it's here and arguing about it will make absolutely NO difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
debiy55
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It doesn't matter whether it's NOT a breed or IS a breed, they are here and as long as they are here they deserve the right to have a good life, just like any other animal, wild or not! So if someone wants to adopt a wolfdog and knows how to take care of it and will be a responsible owner then I say, GREAT!
 
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i think they definately require a different approach to care than the typical dog, but far too often (not unlike other dog breeds) they end up in the wrong hands of incapable owners who just want a novelty pet, or ends up with those who completely disregard their genetics and behavior that sets them apart from a dog and tries to treat them like a 'normal' dog which could be disasterous. i'm just glad that some of these wolfdogs have the potential to be re-homed to responsible owners, it certainly is a luxury that other 'exotics' don't have
 
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Very pretty dogs.hope things go well.great someone cares about them.
 
Amanda R.
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They are not good pets. A lady was recently killed by her "pack" of wolf dog's when she went in the fence to feed them. My brother in law use to have one and had to put it down because it got so territorial with his other dogs and injured one.
 
wolfmommy
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Amanda,

The truth is that Sandra Pivosen had far too many INTACT animals, in a small space. A pack of any kind of canines is dangerous. Her death is a result of poor animal husbandry, not because of the animals genetics. She had those animals for YEARS. Every year, the pack size would increase when she kept a puppy or two. A recipe for disaster. Look at people when cramped into a small space. A MOB ensues. How many people have been killed/trampled by mobs at sports events, concerts, Spiritual Gatherings in India, etc.? Far more than any one killed by a canine.

Your mindset and opinion is what I am working so hard at educating. The situation the animals are in sets the stage for the outcome. Any animal, any human, is reactive to the situation and the stimuli around them. People kill people. Lets ban people! Red cars are involved in more accidents and speeding tickets than any other vehicle. Let's ban Red Cars, and not consider the idiot behind the wheel. The same with breed or animal bans - the idiot behind the ownership of the animal is at fault, not the animal.

Please look at the BIG picture. They/Wolfdogs are NOT for everybody. Horses are not for everybody. Collies aren't for everybody. Et Al... Responsible Ownership requires the two legged have more sense and intelligence than the four legged.

Nancy
 
5ineveryroom
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Great point!
 
Mary T.
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The situation this lady had would have been dangerous with any large breed of dog. Keeping dogs in a situation such as these were kept very often causes dangerous aggression issues no matter what breed of canine it is. Through the rescue work I do I have witnessed dogs of MANY, MANY breeds of all shapes and sizes becoming aggressive due to how they are housed/handled.

As several of us have said, it is critical for ANY animal owner to educate themselves about the type of animal(canine, feline, equine, whatever) as well as the breed characteristics of their chosen breeds(breed of dog, type of horse, etc) and to find a realistic match between their lifestyle and experience level, and the needs of the particular animal. Locking lots of large dogs up(especially non-fixed!)in a confined space is truly a disaster waiting to happen.

Please do not blame an entire breed for a human's avoidable mistakes.
 
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I would just like to say that it is possible to be hurt by any breed of dog. I volunteer at Full Moon Farm and I just want you to know after working with all the dogs I have never been bit. Before I worked with wolf dogs I used to work with a regular rescue and was bit 5 times by Boxers.
 
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Absolutely beautiful animals!
 
Valarie B.
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Absolutely beautiful animals! They deserve to be treated with love and respect just like any other dog or animal
 
gotbullies
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Good Idea.
 
maple125
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As with any animal, an educated owner is the best owner. These are beautiful dogs and deserve to be treated with respect. Hope they find good homes.
 
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i knew a woman who took in all types of animals. mice, rats, rabbits, a hurt bird. animals that she found around her life. she was also giving a wolfdog, when it was under a year and had it, all it's natural life. she in no way was ever mean or mistrusting to this animal. but, she did come in with deep bite marks on her body from her wolfdog. for what ever reason, it's natural instints would come out and he would try to attack her. she knew that it was the animals natural instints and just excepted the animal and love and cared for it. these animals are beautiful. but, one must.be careful before you take one into your home. this doesn't mean it should be done away with (like ohio is trying to do with pit-bulls) what it means is all animals have their place with humans but, the humans have to be held accountable. NOT THE ANIMALS!
 
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These animals are beautiful!!!
 
Renee B.
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Great story, I hope these dogs find good forever homes!
 
acedogg2001
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This article is very interesting, I did not realize they were not half wolf and half dog.
 
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" Most genetics experts feel that after the third generation in captivity, wild animals become tame, or domesticated."
I have to disagree on this point. I have worked with captive bred wolves and wolf/dogs for the past 11 years. We have found that that after 8 to 10 generations Wolf and Wolf/dogs retain their wild instincts. They may become socalized and enjoy human contact and affection, but they are not in any way tame or domesticated.


 
wolfmommy
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http://www.floridalupine.org Please take a look at this file. Known as the Fox Experiment, it is very interesting. The state of NJ allows pure wolves, captive bred, after 3 generations, as domestic animals. It is subjective, to be sure.
 
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Hi Nancy,
Do you by any chance have an official contact in New Jersey with that information.
I can not seem to find any information on it in the New Jersey Conservation web site.

Thanks,

Jim
 
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Interesting article. Beautiful animals.
 
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Debbie
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They are gorgous animals!
 
Lisa
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I don't understand the need for them. Lets try to get our dogs from shelters.
 
wolfmommy
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Lisa, I think you may have missed something... Some people like the high energy breeds, sight hounds, working dogs - herders, mushers, livestock protection dogs, so a wolfdog is the same class and catagory. Wolfdogs are NOT dangerous animals. Personally, I would not have a short coated dog, especially one with floppy ears! The wolfdog is the "original dog", before genetic manipulation produced the current "breeds" of dogs! Did you know the short legged dogs, Bassets, Corgi's, etc., are a result of genetic manipulation of a birth defect known as osteochondrodysplasia?

Some people like smaller toy breeds. Some people like the hunting breeds. Some people like the guarding and protection breeds. Some people like Northern breeds. Some people like wolfdogs or primitive breeds. Last I knew, this was a free country, and we can choose the breed of our choice! - Err, well, sort of. New laws are being passed every day taking away our rights as pet owners to love and keep the breed of our choice. Love your pet. It may be outlawed one day. Nancy
 
wolfmommy
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One other thing Lisa, Full Moon Farm IS a SHELTER! Nancy
 
Cindy
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Sounds like the Full Moon Farm does some fantastic work! Very interesting!
 
wolfmommy
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Thank you. It is interesting. I have never been a "scientific minded" person, but I have found genetics interesting, and learn more everyday. Nancy
 
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They are beautiful animals. Im so glad she is helping them.
 
wolfmommy
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Thank you.
 
Cindy M.
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Thanks Nancy for providing a loving home for these poor mistreated dogs.
 
wolfmommy
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Thank you, and please, help me with the education effort that wolfdogs are NOT for everybody. Education will put me out of a "job" -(using the term loosley, as there is no wages that are paid to anyone!) - and I would love to educate myself out of a job! Nancy
 
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I think they are beautiful animals and I have always thought I would like to have one. My son in law used to have one, before I me him and has a special love in his heart for wolves. Good luck with the rehab and God bless!
 
wolfmommy
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Please consider volunteering at a rescue or sanctuary, or mentoring with a successful wolfdog owner first. wolfdogz@yahoogroups.com is an excellent start for interaction with people. Also, I have a lot of information that I could email you, if you contact me. Nancy
 
Denise L.
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This proves that aggression all depends on the raising of the dog, part wolf or not! Of course, individual personality comes into play as well.
 
wolfmommy
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AMEN! Thank YOU for speaking the truth. Nancy
 
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A friend of mine has a wolfdog. One of it's parents was a full blooded timber wolf, so he is one of those wolf dog's who is vvvvveerrrry close to being a wolf, and ya..... I get really freaked out everytime I see him because he looks like. . . a freakin wolf! But he is a very nice dog with people. However, he will kill any cat that he has a chance to, so thank God my friend is a responsible pet parent and keeps his dog safe and other animals safe from him
 
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this is a very interesting story. i know someone who had a half sheppard half malamute. the had to put him down at 2. i was told he had started to revert. i know the malamut is a very tough dog so i;m am not sure which he was reverting to. this article talks about much further back. i guess with a loving home it should be a loving animal. they all come down from wild and each individule animal now matter what breed or cross retains some of the traits of the original
 
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Our rescue recieved a beautiful wolf hybrid that we name appropriately Luna. She was bred at a ranch in Texas and bought by a Truck driver who thought he would use her to "protect" his truck which did not last long. After he learned of the future liabilities of owning a "wolf dog" he relinquished her to us. We found her a terrific home with a fireman who had another wolf dog . They are both now being used for "search and rescue" attempts and are beautiful animals!!
 
wolfmommy
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Hi Melissa,

Bless your heart for helping Luna. There are more disreputable breeders of poor quality, misrepresented animals in Texas. Most of those breeders LIE to the public, (because they believe the lies themselves), and sell puppies to people that shouldn't own a Chia Pet!

BTW, they are not hybrids. Wolves and dogs are the same species. Hybridization occurs between 2 distinct and separate species. Wolfdogs are fertile. Most of the wolfdogs out there are from wolfdog to wolfdog breedings, and very few are from wolf to dog breedings. Where verified lineage pure wolves are bred, they are bred for a specific purpose, and line bred back to a pure for true *98%* animals, and not these made up, misrepresented, souped up dogs. I truly love low content wolfdogs, but when one is sold as a high content, lives in the house, loves cats and kids, it creates a problem when those misinformed buyers get the *real deal-98%*, and when the true 98 eats the couch, kills the cat, and acts as it should, the true *98* gets turned loose, killed, dumped into rescue, or hurts someone.

I am pro licensing and pro education - for ALL pets. Proper containment is a requirement for responsible pet ownership. (IMHO, IQ tests should be required to own a hard wired, high energy, opportunistic, problem solving canine!) Breeders need to be responsible and sell only to legal areas, under contract to spay/neuter the pup, and always take that puppy back, should the need ever arise. There are a few wolfdog breeders that meet that criteria, but for every good one, there are 25 bad ones.

Ideally, rescue would no longer be needed, because only responsible people would be breeding, and well educated buyers would purchase good quality, (insert your preferred breed here) puppies.

Nancy
 
ourstaff
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I like the idea of having different licencing requirements for dogs with different needs.
I shouldn't be allowed to have a large and potentially dangerous dog. I wouldn't mistreat it. I would be more likely to try spoil it rotten and turn it into something that seems more like a cuddly lap dog when it never will be one. You have to know what you are doing and be able to control the dog when something unexpected happens. A fist full of money doesn't make a good owner and we need people who are willing to turn it down.
 
Mary T.
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Ourstaff,

Wow! I am seriously impressed with this comment. People who are this honest about their own abilities/needs are so few and far between! This is one of the things I stress most to potential adopters: KNOW YOURSELF- know your own abilities, be realistic about your lifestyle and your personality. Then try to find the animal that best fits your reality. We'd have so many less animals to try to find homes for if more people were that self-aware and honest! Thank you. Mary
 
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Beautiful animals but as with all animals they are not "one size fits all". Unfortunate so many do not do their homework as to if they are right for them. Holds true with a lot of people, Think "oh how cool" and then are unable to handle them. Then the animals plight begins!
 
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This was an interesting article. I always thought that a wolfdog was half-wolf, half-dog. But now I know different. I think this sanctuary is a wonderful place and I am glad that the wolfdogs that cannot be adopted out can live there for the rest of their lives. Nancy sounds like a wonderful person. I hope the breeders of these animals do become more responsible.
 
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Thank you for your kind words. I believe in the animals, and am thankful that I can live my passion. Nancy
 
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Best of luck to you, Nancy. I truly think what you are doing is wonderful!
 
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I tried to care for an unmanageable dog that waq half wild wolf once, because it's owners couldn't keep it. It turned out to be pretty wild, wanted to run and chew and attack other male dogs and kill cats. It was a young dog when I got it, about a year old, and I had a female Border Collie/Sheltie mix at the time. They got along great and played better than I've ever seen two dogs play, but the half-wolf was too wild and I could not keep it. I think they have a lot of instinct that controls their urges. It may not be the exact same as a wolfdog, but close enough. Those wild instincts shouldn't be brought into a domestic situation.
 
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Hi John, Of the 350 wolfdogs I have handled, in 14 years, I have NEVER had a 1/2 wolf - 1/2 dog, and have never had an animal that was out of wild caught stock. Wolf dogs are bred from captive bred lines, that have been held by the same families for generations. There are a tremendous amount of back yard breeders who THINK they have a wild wolf, and they do not. Phenotyping is the only means (at this time), to determine if or not a wolfdog is a wolfdog. There is no DNA or genetic testing available. Also, registration papers can be used to line a birdcage and have as much value. There are no longer any registries that are tracking captive lines. BTW, it is illegal to den rob a wolf pup, in Canada or the US. Many back yard breeders of wolfdogs bought a lie and a myth when they bought their dog. Believe me, there are no wild wolves in anyones captive breeding program. DNA on pure wolves can be traced and isolated to an area and even a specific pack. Genotyping wolves is common. Wolfdogs cannot be determined, only pures.

Current captive bred lines can be traced, some as far back as the 1920's. Most genetics experts feel that after the third generation in captivity, wild animals become tame, or domesticated.

Lower content, higher F generation animals are exceptionally smart dogs. :-)

Nancy
 
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I have never seen a wolfdog -only pictures of them . they are a beautiful dog and I admire this lady in caring for them.
 
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This is a great story....My family had a reg. Wolf Dog (reg. by the state of Alaska) growing up. As a kid she was just our dog, a very good, protective non dangerous dog. P.S. she never barked...the people on our block also loved her.
 
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Reg by the state of AK? How long ago was this? Wolfdogs are illegal in AK, and have been for quite a while. I was unaware that the state had a *registry*. I'll have to ask around about that tidbit of information! Nancy
 
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Wolfdogs are little understood animals about which too many misconceptions exist and the work of Nancy Brown and her Full Moon Farm rescue and sanctuary for wolfdogs is wonderful and essential.

As pointed out in the story, wolfdogs "are no more dangerous than any other pet dog". People must understand that a wolfdog is a canid hybrid resulting from the mating of a wolf and a dog. Today most proponents and breeders of this magnificent animal prefer the term wolfdog as opposed to wolf-dog hyrid or wolf hybrid because the domestic dog was recently recategorized as a subspecies of wolf. Rescue organizations consider any animal with wolf heritage within the last five generaitons to be a wolfdog.

Of course they are beautiful animals as in their first generation gray wolves are most often crossed with wolf-like dogs such as German Shepherds, Siberian Huskies, and Alaskan Malamutes, and since wolf hybrids are genetic mixtures of wolves and dogs, their physical and behavioral characteristics cannot be predicted with any certainty.
Yet while this mixing of genetic traits, may result in less predictable behavior patterns compared with either the wolf or dog it does not mean that the behavior of any specific hybrid is erratic.

This breed can and does make a fine intelligent pet. There is a need for more responsible wolfdog breeding and before taking on the responsibility of this breed (and all breeds for the matter) prospective owners must be educated and ready to learn to train and live with and love these splendid animals.


 
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Thank you Mary.

"You Got It!" :-)

Genetic roulette is very common in wolfdogs, since they are not a "breed", and there is not a breed standard. Wolfdog to wolfdog breedings can throw some unusual looking animals, within the same litter. Content is referred to, rather than percentage, and F generations are very important. If a breeder cannot tell you the lineage of the alleged pure wolf in the mix, nor what generation removed from the pure wolf the puppies are, do not buy one.

Much of my *Mission* is "mythbusting". The myth of wolfdogs being half wolf-half dog, wolfdogs being "dangerous", wolfdogs being "wild animals", wolfdogs being "abominations" and wolfdogs killing all other animals, are all myths I refute. As well as the myths surrounding "genetics". Wolves do not have blue eyes, nor do they carry the blue eye gene, so offspring of a wolf, (F1 or first generation), cannot have blue eyes. High content and pure wolves can only be born in the spring, so when people call that they have a *wolf* or *high content wolfdog*, with a birthday other than April/May, I can usually prove they bought a myth. Wolfdogs CAN successfully live in the house, with cats and kids, they just are not high content animals. (While I try not to speak in *absolutes*, there are a few people that have successfully kept HC's in their home, but it is very rare.)

A good breeder, can, predict personalities and physical characteristics. The parents should be tested for hip problems, and other genetic conditions. A good breeder should be trying to create a breed standard, and not putting *Timber and Sierra* together to make pretty puppied, to sell, purely for the purpose of making money. A good hobby breeder of wolfdogs is not in it for the money, but in it for the love of the *breed*-the personality and look they want to have as a companion animal.

I have found wolfdogs to have a better command of body language than any other dog. Wolves have retained the inate ability to convey their emotions and thoughts through body language, but many dog-dogs have lost it. Ear cropping and tail docking do affect the conveyance of body language by the dog, BUT if a person knows their breed, they can program themselves to the appropriate response.

My tag line is "Without Wolves, there would be no dogs,"

Nancy
 
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Great Article. Wolf dogs are beautiful.
 
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Wow! What beautiful creatures! It is sad that they are being sold to people who probably couldn't even handle the exercise needs of a Jack Russel terrier. . .
 
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I agree that they are not dangerous
 
Beth I.
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I always thought they were 1/2 wolf 1/2 dog. This article enlightened me.
 
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I totally agree that they may be no dangerous then any other dog breed
 
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But I agree that this animal is not for everybody.
And better to the people do not breeding this animals but better to stop to euthunize normal breed dogs!
Better to adopt normal breed dogs which so wait and hope to find home before people will put them to sleep-to euthunize them how unwanted.
 
Bill G.
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This was very interesting reading. I discovered that I had some misconceptions about them. Thank you for doing this article.
 
Irineyuma
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Wolf dogs are very beatuful,clever and with good education they are very nice with people and kids.
 
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This article was quite interesting, because just recently I learned about wolf dogs. I think it is great that this sanctuary has been set up. It gives these beautiful creatures a second chance. At the same time, like it was stated in the article, there needs to be more responsible breeding and people handling these animals need to be educated. Doing any less just isn't fair to these animals.
 
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Interesting. If they aren't breed with wolves then how do you come about them.
 
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they are bred with wolves, just not wild ones
 
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Thank you. Partially true. With the known generation of the pure, we can go backwards. Example - I am 1/8 Cherokee. My Mother was 1/4. Her father was 1/2, and his mother was full. That is 4 generations of people. We do the same thing with wolf lineages. Because I am 1/8, that doesn't make me an Indian, right? Nancy
 
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I wasn't even aware of the breed, but it's very interesting
 
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::::standing and cheering::::::

EXACTLY!

I wish more people understood that, we'd have so many less dogs for adoption.
 
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AMEN! If people do their *homework*, there would be no need for sanctuaries. Nancy
 
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Here we go again- the ongoing discussion regarding breeders! I truly understand that many want to see breeders dissappear until all the shelter dogs have found homes, but I don't think that to be realistic. I would like to see the focus of this energy spent in putting an end to the money-making breeders who thrive on quantity- not quality. Yes, this animal is certainly not for everyone, but when I buy a car it is up to me to do the research on what I plan to buy. If I make a stupid descision, then it is my mistake. Eliminating this breed of dog, or any other, is no answer for the over-population problem. We need to look OUTSIDE the Black & White box!!
 
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We had a wolf dog in our shelter once. It got out of its yard and could not get back in, so it sat beside the fence. Somebody called that there was a wolf and the dog warden was dispatched out. The dog was so friendly, but no tag. He thought it was a very large husky. The owner came to get his dog and fixed the fence so the dog could not get out again.

The owner said it takes alot of work with the wolfdog to make it a great family pet. That it is not a dog for everyone.

And if out of 71 wolfdogs at this rescue only 10 are suitable to be re-homed, why are they still breeding this animal. There is already too many large and extra large breed normal breed dogs being put down daily for lack of homes. If you want a wolf looking dog, get a husky or a malamute.
 
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You ask: >> >>
This could be due to the animal just not being "pet quality," but it very likely could be due to abuse they went through prior to arriving at the sanctuary. We've had dogs of a variety of breeds(including miniature breeds) that we could not rehabilitate reliably enough to rehome them. One was a mostly wonderful, purebred GSD I myself fostered. When he was good, he was the best dog you could ask for, but when he snapped it was with zero warning and it was with intent to kill. It happens. It happens more often with the bigger, stronger breeds, sure, because they are bigger and stronger and if all heck breaks loose they are more dangerous. But I wouldn't assume it was the breeding alone that made these animals unadoptable.
 
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~~~clapping hands~~~

It is NOT the breed, but the abuse or neglect these animals suffered. Many were bought as "wolves", left chained in a back yard, not socialized, and later discarded because they weren't fuzzy bunny dogs! Well, Duh!

I had a Husky X Sammie that came in, bought as an Arctic, left chained for 3 years, that was so socially retarded from the neglect, that he fear bit everything! There was not a "wolf hair" in this dog! He came to the sanctuary as he was turned into the shelter as a wolfdog, so that is what he became. He is one of the lucky ones. I had a caretaker that took a shine to him, and he was worked with until he got over his issues and went to a home - with an experienced new "mom", who had northern breed experience.

Most of the wolfdogs I get are NOT "Add collar, instant pet". BECAUSE the owners didn't care...

Nancy
 
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I completely agree. Why are they continuing to breed wolf dogs? I have heard that it takes a special person to deal with them because they have different needs. Thus, it isn't good to continue to breed them and allow uneducated people to get their hands on them. Like you said, we already have so many larger dogs in shelters, so why continue to add to the problem?
 
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They are not unsuitable because they are wolf dogs it is because of the uneducated people who bought them. Just like with any breed do your homework and by the way a responsible breeder screens people before they let their puppies go and will always take them back it is the backyard breeders who make the more messed up animals.

-Allison
 
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The reason there are 61 unsuitable dogs, as stated in the article, is because of lack of funds for training. This guys are lucky that they have a place to live out their lives dispite the fact that they have issues. Any dog, I don't care what breed, has issues because of the way they are breed and handled. So should we stop breeding ALL pure breeds?
 
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I would love to have some trainers help! You are spot on- I cannot do it all... they are not bad dogs, just unschooled in the way of good dog manners. ;-) Nancy
 
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Its not that they need to stop breeding wolf dogs all together, people that no nothing about them need to stop breeding anything they have. They are wonderful animals and they are much different than any Husky or Malamute.

-Allison
 
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I just want you to know that it is not because they are wolf dogs that they cant be rehomed its beacuse they have been abused not because of what they are. The ones that are scared have been abused.
 
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As we all should know, all domesticated animals, ALL DOMESTICATED, came from the original creatures that were placed on this earth. Their first instinct is to find a mate, find food and shelter. That's how they survived. It is only natural that ANY animal can revert to DANGER MODE at any given time, if their treatment has been abusive. Wolfdogs are wonderful, loving, loyal companions, IF, and ONLY IF, they are treated with respect and trust. They are very protective of 'their' families, and make no mistake, this is how they got their bad reputation. I have a little Yorkie that protects me like a MASSIVE dog! Does that put him on the danger list. No because he is small and cute, but has a badass attitude. This was a great article to bring the awareness to the public about these wonderful dogs! People should be more open-minded and read and think before they judge the animals!! Innocent until proven guilty - misbehavior is ususally from an inexperienced human getting a pet they have no knowledge of.
 
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Bless you!

When there is an incident between a horse and rider, it is bad horsemanship. When there is an incident between dog and human, it is a bad dog. Why?

One of the items in my talks are the horse in my backyard is more likely to kill me, than any dog on the place!

Mid and High content wolfdogs remind me a lot of horses. Horses are considered "domestic animals" by J Q Public, yet they have retained the "fight or flight" instincts. That is acceptable behavior - to kick and buck when agitated, but it is not ok for a dog to bite when agitated? People are required to keep their horses in fencing. How come people are not required to keep their dogs in fencing?

Responsible ownership of all animals, dogs, cats, exotics and farm animals, starts with keeping the animals safe from traffic, safe from other animals, and safe from humans who mean them harm.

Good fences make good neighbors... Nancy
 
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Here once again we fall into Exotics,and I still think that you can't play both sides of the fence.
Wolf dogs are beautiful,and I've actually met a few ,that were pretty easy going animals,but I think in general we do have to remember where they came ,that they were indeed wild,and because of that , their physical and behaviorial characteristics cannot be predicted with any certainty,and they can not ever be completely trusted.
If people are looking for those kinds of traits,I think that there are enough dogs around in our world that they could adopt,from Sheperds,Siberian Huskies, and Alaskan Malamutes,to Akita's,Chows,etc.
Too many wolf crosses end up in rescue facilities, often due to unrealistic expectations. They certainly can be difficult to manage if not prepared for their needs and behaviors. Sadly, many also end up being mistreated due to poor socialization and training.
If you look into this,it seems like only a few get adopted-The rest have too many behaviors that keep them from being adopted out,and truthfully,there are too many normal everyday dogs that are waiting to go home with a friend.Let's quit making Hybiid breeds and help the ones that allready exist.
 
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Your comment >> Too many wolf crosses end up in rescue facilities, often due to unrealistic expectations. They certainly can be difficult to manage if not prepared for their needs and behaviors. Sadly, many also end up being mistreated due to poor socialization and training.>> hit home to me, but because it is true of so very many breeds. I can't tell you how many GSDs, Aussies, BCs, Boxers, Labs get surrendered to our rescue for exactly the reasons you state.

I recognize that your comment was in regard to the hybrids, but it is true of most breeds, so I had to chime in. I also am in favor of restricting breeding, but of all breeds. I think there absolutely is a place for breeding(I love my purebreds!!!), but there are too many irresponsible breeders, and there are too many unwanted litters out there which in turn leads to the tremendous numbers of perfectly adoptable pets that get put down each DAY across the nation.

But I think I'm getting on a bit of a tangent here, so I'll get off my spay/neuter soapbox. *sheepish grin*
 
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We are going to have to agree to disagree. Wolfdogs are not exotic animals. They are considered domestic animals by the USDA. There is no breed standard for a wolfdog, so a low content is like a husky, mal, GSD, etc., a mid content is likened to a sight hound, working breed type, or high energy dog. A High Content is in a world of its own, and what I am really trying to convey is 85% of the people out there who think they have a high content do NOT, they breed their backyard bred mutt to another misrepresented backyard bred mutt, and sell those higher F generation animals as high content wolfdogs, and they are not!

The behaviors that make my residents unadoptable are not becasue of their genetics, but because of their abuse or neglect. They are not bad dogs. They just had bad owners. There is not enough manpower here, or funding, to get these dogs trained where they can become a pet quality animal. I have over 30 LOW content animals that are NOT placeable because they spent their lives in environments that were not conducive to training or socialization. Not the fault of the dogs, but the humans that produced them, and/or bought them. Nancy
 
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There is no breed standard for a wolfdog, so a low content is like a husky, mal, GSD, etc., a mid content is likened to a sight hound, working breed type, or high energy dog...

If there is no standard then WHY ARE THEY BEING BRED? If they're not bred TO A STANDARD with a SPECIFIC GOAL IN MIND, WHY ARE THEY BEING BRED?
 
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These pups are very lucky to have a place to go where they can be safe and happy and lives out thier lives happily if they are unable to find suitable homes. Full Moon Sanctuary seems to work very hard with these dogs to ensure that they are placed in the right homes with people that understand them. I wish them the best of luck.
 
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Thank you for the kind words. I am truly Blessed by having these animals in my life. Nancy
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