Carriage Ban Debated at NY City Hall Meeting

daryl b.
3 years ago

does anyone know what is going on with this. a carrage ride through central park is wonderful

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Erica M.
3 years ago

I think this issue may be part of the larger question, what is the relationship between humans and other animals? In what ways, may humans use animals? What are the criteria we use to judge the morality of a particular use for an animal? The problem is we don't all agree. Some would say human entertainment is an acceptable use. Others would disagree with that, but believe using animals for food is okay. Some strive to avoid animal entertainment and products of all kinds. There are so many ways people differ in their viewpoints.

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Swayloveswasabi34
3 years ago

it just needs to be regulated.

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Kbehrendt
4 years ago

I fully support the legislation; if nothing else, keep them in the parks, or somewhere off the roads. But I also agree that they need to do something to help the drivers into new professions; not only do they need to provide for themselves and their families, but I also would hate to see them get attacked by the manic animal activists ANOTHER time because now they can't feed or care for their horses anymore.

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daryl b.
4 years ago

we have a mule barge near me. the only thing wrong with it is thatthe mules are too fat. it gets them out of their satals and a nice leisurly walk along the river canal. i even walked to the stable area and it was clean and they had a place to turn them out. they seemed very happy to have something to do. the one thing i worry about in nyc is the cartrafic. i do not think it should be baned just regulated like the truck drivers

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Stephanie
4 years ago

I think it should continue as long as the horses are treated fairly. I'd love to take a carriage ride if I ever went there.

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Nick & Ashlee K.
4 years ago

i think the most important thing is that the horses the care that they need and hopefully the owners can provide that. but as far as keeping them in the city, kinda of thrown by it. it is something that i havent experianced first hand so i can't really have to much say in it.

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Edith F.
4 years ago

I know that this has been argued before. However, I would like to see them continue. It is a charming site, amidst all the noise and bustle of the city. Two weeks ago on a warm sunny weekend we sat in Central Park and watched the parade of carriages. If the horses are monitored for health and weather conditions, they should remain. I thought there were regulations preventing the horses from going out in extreme temperatures.
What would Fred Astaire think if we were to ban them?

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Patricia C.
4 years ago

Any decision made about this yet? I among others would appreciate an update!

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Anne S.
4 years ago

I just want to know that the horses are being treated humanely.

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peg c.
4 years ago

There should be better monitoring and only rides through the park-not on busy streets

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Lucille Vaughn F.
4 years ago

I think it should be stopped. It may hurt a few good owners, but from experience, you know that there are going to be some horses that are not going to get the care the should. It's true, one bad apple spoils the batch, but they should police themselves, and since they haven't, well, shut it down.

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Autumn P.
4 years ago

Wonder how this is going--hope they get them banned.

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Ingrid M.
4 years ago

I'm just glad the ASPCA is involved and looking out for the horses.

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Michelle K.
4 years ago

I can see where people are concerened about these horse's safety. I think that a ride through the park on a carriage would be a wonderful experience as long as these animals are treated well and are not in any danger.

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Hrstansbury
4 years ago

I've heard that the NYC horses are treated really well, but I just can't imagine that walking around the city is a happy life for them.

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Graciel
4 years ago

So do they still have mounted policemen in NYC? What could possibly be the difference? The heat and traffic conditions would be the same for both.

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Sherry B.
4 years ago

I'm glad to hear this. I've heard stories in other cities of how the horses are not treated well. You'd think they'd care very well for their horses since they are their livelihood, but not always so...This is also not to say that there are not those who take very good care of their animals.

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Mel S.
4 years ago

As long as the horses are kept safe and not subjected from the freezing or extreme heat I guess it would be o.k. They definately need to be monitored.

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Dylyn H.
4 years ago

wow

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Nickie A.
4 years ago

Check out this site: www.banhdc.org/ You'll see why there needs to be a ban. Horses don't do well with crazy city traffic.

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Jesse D.
4 years ago

what are the results of hti???

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LuAnne R.
4 years ago

You know I have only been to NYC twice and the ride through Central Park has been a wonderful memory. Let's think about this before we ban them. Our country has been based on the house and carriage and now because it is 2009 we have to ban it. Give me a break.

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frank g.
4 years ago

whatever is best for the horses and keeps them safe.

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Anna
4 years ago

As long as the horses are being treated well I don't see it as too much of a bad thing. I agree with some of the safety concerns that were brought up like the second story stable need to be addressed.

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Poco2luv
4 years ago

Just like with any animal owner, there are good ones and bad ones. I'm sure there are a lot of good owners that love their animals and wouldn't want anything bad to happen to them.

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Cbytheriver
4 years ago

It may be a tradition but not all traditions are good. It must be hard on the horses.

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Onic4
4 years ago

I think that if the horses aren't being overworked and abused that the practice could continue. I know other cities still have their horse carriages.

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Nalabeau
4 years ago

I don't know much about horses so I'm not sure if pulling a carriage around all day is hard work for them. Not only do they have these in Chicago but Mackinac Island is vehicle free so to get around they use horse drawn carriages or bicycles. If the animals aren't being abused I'm okay with them "working".

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Jewel L.
4 years ago

I was in Chicago last summer & it was in July we saw these poor horses giving carriage rides it was so hot, I felt so sorry for them after watching for an hour, I never saw them get water & the horses were just soaked it was that hot, I cant imagine they were enjoying this at all! I hope they do away w/ it after seeing what the conditions were like.

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Megan N.
4 years ago

If the horses are swtiched out often and treated well, I'm not sure it's a horrible thing....they're shoed for the concrete. But it does suck that they probably aren't in a pasture very often if at all...

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Julie U.
4 years ago

I hope this is banned. I believe one of the issues is that the horses are walking on streets all day. It wouldn't be a problem if they were "working" all day in pastures and fields but their feet aren't designed to walk on concrete all day, everyday.

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jen g.
4 years ago

I've been in a horse drawn carriage in the city, but it was a long time ago, and I never did it again.

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jane w.
4 years ago

If the animals are treated humanly and the drivers sited for violations I do not see any problems with the issue. Even if a horse is "working" eight hours a day that does not mean he is pulling a carriage all the time.

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Annette1117
4 years ago

Wish there were good answers for all involved.

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Evelync
4 years ago

They should put a stop to carriage rides

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Justin S.
4 years ago

I would take both sides but I just don't like seeing animals in pain.

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Leslie B.
4 years ago

I'm always amazed that this still goes on. ANYWHERE. At one of our big shopping malls they have horse drawn carriage rides during Christmas. P-L-E-A-S-E!

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Emma C.
4 years ago

i see both sides of this debate. but those horses never look all that happy....

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Kristen S.
4 years ago

I understand both sides...I just hate to see those animals...they look so miserable with that bit in their mouth...Imagine that thing in your mouth all day long....OMG - just thinking about it makes me claustrophobic. I wish there was a better way to strap them all up that made them more comfy. That's my opinion.

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deb o.
4 years ago

i see both sides but i would never want to see an animal mistreated (obviously).

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Traceylbosinski
4 years ago

If the animal is treated the way it should be then there shouldn't be an issue of it. But if these drivers are being abusive to them then the ban should be in place and the heck with tradition.

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Julie w.
4 years ago

Punish the abusive drivers and make sure the horses are housed in good conditions. Conduct inspections to make sure everyone is in compliance.

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Jeepnferretlover
4 years ago

I agree Julie.

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Chester H.
4 years ago

I hope this gets passed. This is no for any animal to live.

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Mary S.
4 years ago

I agree with banning the cruel drivers - not the working horses.

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Vmccullouch
4 years ago

I don't see how working is abuse. These horses are how the drivers pay their bills, they aren't going to purposefully risk their animals - they are the meal tickets. Remember that the drivers are not sitting the warmth either, if the horses are outside, so are the drivers.
Is the next ban going to be on Amish drivers who bring their horses up and down main roads where traffic flows at 50-65 mph? They are in much more danger than the horses in slow moving traffic.

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jim a.
4 years ago

If work is abuse then why isn't all work banned. If there is animal cruelty issues then deal with the cruel driver.

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jo f.
4 years ago

It sounds like the Driver/Owners are cooperating with the ASPCA in the care and handling of their animals. I agree with some of you....working is not abuse...as long as they are properly cared for.

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UnoDiamante
4 years ago

I think there should be regular, and careful inspections of the care the horses are receiving...Some of their feet and coats look horrible...

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Sllange
4 years ago

I don't really think the horses are being abused. There are a lot of working animals. Work does not equal abuse.

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