What are old-fashined methods? Part 1
posted on:
Mar '09
15
3:53pm
I've read several posts where people are tired of hearing trainers talk about old-fashioned methods. I thought if I clarified what I think about, that might help, but I certainly cannot speak for everyone.
Years back, this is what was written in the books and what was done:
From THE DOG with Simple Directions for his treatment by Idstone, c. 1874:
“A few simple mechanical contrivances are of great assistance for the breaking of certain sporting dogs, such as Pointers, Setters, Retrievers, and Spaniels. These are choke or check collars, weighted collars…”
“…now seldom used…my improved spike collar is far more simple in its action, and as the spikes are constructed of nuts and screws, their severity may be tempered to the disposition, coat, or skin of any dog.”
Conrad Most, 1910, Training Dogs, A Manual
In referring to choke chains:
“this as mechanical operations…in the forms of pulls, pressures, jerks, thrusts and heaves…with the infliction of pain, from slight to intense.”
Good Dog, Bad Dog, Matthew Margolis, 1973
“During the execution of the jerk the choke collar tightens around the dog’s neck giving him a mild sensation…
“Although it does not hurt, it does startle him…
“Whenever the dog refuses to execute a command or indulges in a bad habit, deliver a corrective jerk. However, immediately following each corrective jerk, give him great praise and tell him how good he is.”
The Monks of New Skete - How to be Your Dog's Best Friend (new version takes back what they said) 1975
“We feel that discipline should be administered with the owner’s hand. The hand that feeds is the hand that punishes. Do not use objects of any kind to discipline the dog.”
“How hard do you hit the dog (under the chin)? A good general rule…if you did not get…a yelp or other sign…it wasn’t hard enough…”
“An alternate means of discipline (to alpha roll)…is the shakedown. This method is suggested for shy dogs…”
The Koehler Method of Dog Training, 1981, William Koehler
“Bolting, or Running Away: …the correction is always the same principle. It consists of setting up situations that give him every incentive to bolt, and which result in consequences that make him wish he hadn’t.”
“Fence Running and Gate Charging: …dog persists in fencing running…even after he’s been “dusted” repeatedly with the throw-chain, you’ll have to resort to the heavy artillery of the slingshot.”
See part 2...
Years back, this is what was written in the books and what was done:
From THE DOG with Simple Directions for his treatment by Idstone, c. 1874:
“A few simple mechanical contrivances are of great assistance for the breaking of certain sporting dogs, such as Pointers, Setters, Retrievers, and Spaniels. These are choke or check collars, weighted collars…”
“…now seldom used…my improved spike collar is far more simple in its action, and as the spikes are constructed of nuts and screws, their severity may be tempered to the disposition, coat, or skin of any dog.”
Conrad Most, 1910, Training Dogs, A Manual
In referring to choke chains:
“this as mechanical operations…in the forms of pulls, pressures, jerks, thrusts and heaves…with the infliction of pain, from slight to intense.”
Good Dog, Bad Dog, Matthew Margolis, 1973
“During the execution of the jerk the choke collar tightens around the dog’s neck giving him a mild sensation…
“Although it does not hurt, it does startle him…
“Whenever the dog refuses to execute a command or indulges in a bad habit, deliver a corrective jerk. However, immediately following each corrective jerk, give him great praise and tell him how good he is.”
The Monks of New Skete - How to be Your Dog's Best Friend (new version takes back what they said) 1975
“We feel that discipline should be administered with the owner’s hand. The hand that feeds is the hand that punishes. Do not use objects of any kind to discipline the dog.”
“How hard do you hit the dog (under the chin)? A good general rule…if you did not get…a yelp or other sign…it wasn’t hard enough…”
“An alternate means of discipline (to alpha roll)…is the shakedown. This method is suggested for shy dogs…”
The Koehler Method of Dog Training, 1981, William Koehler
“Bolting, or Running Away: …the correction is always the same principle. It consists of setting up situations that give him every incentive to bolt, and which result in consequences that make him wish he hadn’t.”
“Fence Running and Gate Charging: …dog persists in fencing running…even after he’s been “dusted” repeatedly with the throw-chain, you’ll have to resort to the heavy artillery of the slingshot.”
See part 2...
