Q: Dog fighting???
November 21, 2008 | By Barbara B. | 17 answers | Expired: 2178 days ago
I have this neighbor that has owned a pit bull puppy and they built it a nice house so it can be mostly chained outside. After having that puppy for a few months (maybe 6 months) they didn't have it anymore. Then about a month after that one was gone they got a new pit bull puppy and it was sooo small. I asked them if it was a pit because it was extremely tiny. But then they told me that it was only 4 weeks old. I don't think you are able to bring home a puppy away from it's litter at that young of an age. So they had that little puppy for a few months and then it disapeared once it started getting bigger. Then I started thinking why do they keep getting Pit Bulls and once they start getting a little big then they don't have them anymore. I started thinking: Can they be raising dogs for Dog Fighting? I don't think they have the dog fighting happening in their backyard but they could be raising them for it to happen somewhere else. It's been really cold so I am thinking maybe they do not have dog fights in the winter. But I think they will get another puppy once it starts getting warm again next year. What do you think??? Can these people be raising dogs for Dog Fighting??? Who can I talk to about this? I know nothing can be done now because they don't have any dogs right now. But if this happens again next year when it starts getting warmer what do I do? I love Pit Bulls and this is putting a bad reputation for the dogs and makes them aggressive for people not to like them and then they end up staying in the shelters/ rescue groups.
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Dec 05, 2008
Ask them. Don't be judgmental or they might not tell you. If it has to do with breeding and/or dog fighting, they feel that these are okay things to do and would not mind telling an understanding person. From there you can take action. Someone who chains a little puppy outside to live its life there is not concerned about animal welfare. Take notes and pictures- but from your yard so you can't be accused of trespassing.
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Dec 01, 2008
You've received several very good answers. Look into local/state laws re: chaining dogs and dog fighting. Keep records & take pictures. Call you local police department/animal control - and keep calling. Get your neighbors to call also. Remember, dog fighters use small animals as bait, which is a horrible way to die. You can do something to help these poor aniamls! Thanks!
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Dec 01, 2008
In addition to the above, try and take photos whenever you can -- this is part of the evidence gathering -- you're probably thinking, even if you do take photos, what will they prove -- take photos of dogs being chained up -- let your local police know, also -- hopefully, they can help you by keeping an eye out on them -- give the police a heads-up. Let someone in authority know how concerned you are -- tell them what you know, what you see and what you hear -- don't let these thugs, if they are being abusive -- get away with anything -- whatever you do, DO NOT BE SILENT -- eventually the proof will come out, but be proactive until then -- don't wait for the last minute -- it might be too late. Keep at it. Don't be afraid either -- the thugs need not know you are behind it -- tell the police!
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Nov 30, 2008
I'm not sure what state you are in but some states don't allow ANY dog to spend more than a certain amount of time per day chained up. That's what first comes to mind. Check here for that www.dogsdeservebetter.com/laws.html
Just calling animal control won't do anything unless they are CAUGHT breaking a law such as an anti-chaining law. A paper trail is what you need for starters. You need to log what you see going on over there. Start with what you remember and write that down. You want dates and pictures if you can get them. What dog did they get on what date and until what date was the dog there? That's what you want to log. When you have info that VERIFIES a pattern, as the one you describe, then you have something to go on. Local animal control agencies aren't the most helpful. I think you might get more response from local rescue organizations like Pitbull Rescue Central www.pbrc.net/info.html or HSUS www.hsus.org/acf/fighting/dogfight/
Be vigilant, be couragous and don't give up if you think something is going on, which it seems there is. But don't confront them head on with any type of accusations. That won't make things better and will only serve to make you enemy number one with these people. It's better to be 'friendly" with these people even if you would rather strangle them. Bring biscuits, bring a blanket offer food, anything to gain access that could help you to offer comfort to the dog. In the meantime, silently gather your info and report it when you have something to substantiate your concerns. Then you've got something to go on to take to authorities. Don't just report to animal control or police, find out if shelters in your area employ humane officers and then report to them with your info. If they won't do anything then rattle their cages by going over their head with bad publicity (letters to the editor) and then get in contact with people at the grassroots level of animal rescue in your area as well as from the bigger groups like HSUS, Dogs Deserve Better, and Pit Bull Central for support and advice. of others who will hopefully battle this with you. In the meantime, just do what you can in a friendly manner to provide comfort to the dogs all the while doing your investigative spying and logging. It usually takes some time and patience to assure that something gets done, but ask yourself, are the animals worth it? And if not you, then who?
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Nov 24, 2008
Something out of the ordinary is definitely going on. It sounds like the dogs aren't house pets if they are mostly kept chained outside. And you are correct, a puppy should not be removed from its mother until 8 weeks. These do not seem like real dog loving people to me.
I am wondering if they are not vaccinating their dogs, and the puppies are dying from parvo or some other illness. Perhaps you could ask them who their vet is, making up some excuse for asking.
Without much more evidence, it is definitely hard to determine what exactly is going on, but it is definitely suspicious.
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Nov 22, 2008
i don't know how bold you are but i would come straight out and say something.i don't know what else you could do cause if it's not happening (meaning you have no proof)i don't think anyone would do anything.i would just say keep an eye on things,see how they treat the dogs(if they get another) and i would say if hey have no emotions for the dog(treating it like a family member)your probaly right cause that sounds really odd
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